Women and the bible (1.1)

Towards the end of last year I had alluded to some posts I would be making about what the bible says specifically about women being able to teach the bible at all, and whether or not it was supported or forbidden by scripture.

I still plan on doing this, but the whole thing has kind of morphed into something a bit more. What I plan on doing now is taking a look at women in the bible overall and through a variety of different subjects. Likely it will be an uncomfortable journey for all involved but, as always, I welcome honest and rational discussion on the subject.

I write this particular post today to start of with what woman IS NOT, in the bible. The motivation for this particular post is a twisted little post written by author Gary Thomas who writes, of all things, marriage books! In it he discusses the possibility of the church accepting divorce because he feels that God would accept divorce over making women feel bad.

]http://foreverymom.com/marriage/enough-enough-church-stop-enabling-abusive-men-gary-thomas/

(I don’t want to send any traffic that direction, so you will have to cut and paste the address yourself if you want to read the article).

To me, the so called “money shot” statement that stood out to me first was this one:

“If the cost of saving a marriage is destroying a woman, the cost is too high. God loves people more than he loves institutions.”

POINT 1: WOMEN ARE NOT THE EPITOME OF GODS CREATION

Despite what some people think, nowhere in scripture does God nor any of the angels or prophets even suggest that women is the pinnacle of Gods creation. Essentially what Mr. Thomas’s statement suggests is that women are too holy to have to suffer, despite the fact that the word of God indicates that ALL who follow Christ will suffer in some manner, and that we should count our suffering as a blessing, seeing as how we will be rewarded for it later.

Mr. Thomas, and others like him, have this weird thing (maybe it really is the whispering of satan) that makes them believe that, for some untold reason, God holds woman to be His crowning achievement! The pinnacle of Gods glory! Yet, scripture says otherwise. Here in the infamous Proverbs 31 we find King Lemuel recalling the words told to him by his mother:

Proverbs 31:10
“Who can find a virtuous wife?
For her worth is far above rubies.”

Who can find one indeed? Meaning that it is not easy to come by a wife who is virtuous!  Or what about this observation by the preacher of Ecclesiastes (King Saul) about the upright man:

Ecclesiastes 7:27-30
Here is what I have found,” says the Preacher,
Adding one thing to the other to find out the reason,
Which my soul still seeks but I cannot find:
One man among a thousand I have found,
But a woman among all these I have not found.
Truly, this only I have found:
That God made man upright,
But they have sought out many schemes.”

It seems to me that he is saying that he has only found one upright man among a thousand men, yet finds none upright among the women. The last part of the verses, That God made man upright, but they have sought out many schemes, may be indicating that MEN have sought out many schemes, but it seems more likely to me that he is saying that they (women) sought out many schemes, otherwise he would have used the word MEN. Even though God made man upright, the preacher can only find one upright man out of a thousand.

These scriptures, along with several others, seem to indicate that woman, much like man, is imperfect, and no more worthy of salvation. Indeed the apostle Paul sets the record straight about who’s who in the Lords eyes:

1 Corinthians 11:7-8
For a man indeed ought not to cover his head, since he is the image and glory of God; but woman is the glory of man. For man is not from woman, but woman from man.

Paul indicates that man, though not better than woman (“…for ALL have sinned and fall short of the glory of God”) is certain esteemed higher than woman, for man was put in authority OVER woman:

Genesis 3:16
To the woman He said:

“I will greatly multiply your sorrow and your conception;
In pain you shall bring forth children;
Your desire shall be for your husband,
And he shall rule over you.”

But certainly rule doesn’t mean RULE, rule, does it? (emphasis mine)

Numbers 30

Then Moses spoke to the heads of the tribes concerning the children of Israel, saying, “This is the thing which the Lord has commanded: If a man makes a vow to the Lord, or swears an oath to bind himself by some agreement, he shall not break his word; he shall do according to all that proceeds out of his mouth.

Or if a woman makes a vow to the Lord, and binds herself by some agreement while in her father’s house in her youth, and her father hears her vow and the agreement by which she has bound herself, and her father holds his peace, then all her vows shall stand, and every agreement with which she has bound herself shall stand. But if her father overrules her on the day that he hears, then none of her vows nor her agreements by which she has bound herself shall stand; and the Lord will release her, because her father overruled her.

If indeed she takes a husband, while bound by her vows or by a rash utterance from her lips by which she bound herself, and her husband hears it, and makes no response to her on the day that he hears, then her vows shall stand, and her agreements by which she bound herself shall stand. But if her husband overrules her on the day that he hears it, he shall make void her vow which she took and what she uttered with her lips, by which she bound herself, and the Lord will release her.

“Also any vow of a widow or a divorced woman, by which she has bound herself, shall stand against her.

10 If she vowed in her husband’s house, or bound herself by an agreement with an oath, 11 and her husband heard it, and made no response to her and did not overrule her, then all her vows shall stand, and every agreement by which she bound herself shall stand. 12 But if her husband truly made them void on the day he heard them, then whatever proceeded from her lips concerning her vows or concerning the agreement binding her, it shall not stand; her husband has made them void, and the Lord will release her. 13 Every vow and every binding oath to afflict her soul, her husband may confirm it, or her husband may make it void. 14 Now if her husband makes no response whatever to her from day to day, then he confirms all her vows or all the agreements that bind her; he confirms them, because he made no response to her on the day that he heard them. 15 But if he does make them void after he has heard them, then he shall bear her guilt.”

16 These are the statutes which the Lord commanded Moses, between a man and his wife, and between a father and his daughter in her youth in her father’s house.

Now remember, these are GODS statues to Moses, it is not Moses delivering these of his own accord! God said “and he shall rule over you”, and here we see exactly what He meant by the word RULE.

“But, Snapper”, you say, “That’s THE LAW and we born again believers aren’t under THE LAW!”

Matthew 5:17-20 (Jesus speaking)
17 “Do not think that I came to destroy the Law or the Prophets. I did not come to destroy but to fulfill. 18 For assuredly, I say to you, till heaven and earth pass away, one jot or one tittle will by no means pass from the law till all is fulfilled. 19 Whoever therefore breaks one of the least of these commandments, and teaches men so, shall be called least in the kingdom of heaven; but whoever does and teaches them, he shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven. 20 For I say to you, that unless your righteousness exceeds the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, you will by no means enter the kingdom of heaven.

“Wait a minute! Are you saying that modern men STILL have the authority to cancel out their wives vows and agreements if they don’t approve of them?”

Look above at the line that says “JESUS SPEAKING”. I take no credit for anything written in the bible.

Elevating women to the status these men have done is called IDOLOTRY, and it is not only forbidden by God, it angers Him and He assures us that IDOLATORS will not inherit the kingdom of heaven!

This post is not intended to cut down on women. It is intended to show to modern Christians that God has a design for men and women, and we as believers often speak about Gods perfection. To say God is perfect, then work as hard as possible to prove He is not by changing His design is dangerous to say the least.

This post got too long and I will need to add an additional post later. The purpose of this post is not to make you “believe as I believe”, but merely to point out the words of the bible and allow YOU, the reader, to read and understand them on your own.

DO NOT BELIEVE ANYTHING I TELL YOU REGARDING SCRIPTURE ON THIS BLOG! GO! READ IT FOR YOURSELF! PRAY ABOUT IT! I AM OF NO AUTHORITY!

I am just a guy with a bible who is frustrated at seeing failing churches, failing marriages and failing families who claim to be Christian, but act nothing like a cohesive unit. Instead everyone has their own “thing”, whereas the bible says that a husband/father should be leading everyone in the same direction. Not that fathers DONT lead (some don’t), but modern times make it difficult for husbands/fathers TO lead. That post, however, is for another day.

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