The best lies are the ones you want to hear.

So earlier today I was perusing the internet when I came across a post on a page I frequent often (well, as often as the blogger puts up new posts).  The subject was about how mainstream Christianity does everything it can to avoid holding women accountable for their actions, even go so far as to create stories, whole cloth, about how men are forcing women into bad behavior because of their own desire to avoid some responsibility. For example, men do not want to join the military to fight Americas enemies, so women are forced to take up the slack by joining the military. Men don’t want to join the work force (they would rather stay at home all day and play video games, watch porn and eat Cheetos), so women are forced to take the slack by entering the work force. I would say that it never crosses their mind that Christian women could just be rebellious and doing whatever they want, whenever they want, wherever they want, regardless of scripture, but in saying that might be a lie. I would think that it MUST cross their minds at some point, but I could be very wrong!

You see there’s this school of thought in mainstream Christianity that men are completely responsible for the actions of women (well, for their wrong actions, anyway. Anything good that women do are part of their ‘innate and natural goodness’). Now why would Christians, both men and women, think that? Perhaps it has to do with the oft recalled account of the original sin, which goes something like this:

(please read the following in your head in a ‘preacher voice’, preferably a ‘woman preacher’)

“And so there Eve was, standing by the same tree that God had told her to avoid. And that ol’ serpent, he was spinnin’ his lies, telling her, ‘This tree won’t KILL you! Why, Gods just jealous! He knows that as soon as you eat from this tree, you will be like him! He wants all the glory for himself, so he told you this tree would kill you!’. Well, now, Eve, she took one look at that fruit and saw it was good for eating. And that serpent, boy howdy, was he convincing! And there was Adam, just standing there, watching this whole scene play out, acting a fool when he should have been stepping in to protect his wife! That’s right, he just stood there like a sop! And so, Eve takes that ol’ fruit, and takes a bite, then turns around to Adam and says, ‘Hey, this is pretty good, you should have some!’. And Adam, seeing that Eve DIDNT die, figured well why not, and he takes a big ol’ bite too! And the bible says their eyes were opened! And they knew they were naked so they run off and put themselves together some clothes out of leaves.”

“Then the word says that God appeared in the cool of the day, and He called out for Adam saying, where are you, because Adam and his wife hid themselves. Now let me tell you, God may have called out where are you, but he knew EXACTLY where Adam was! So finally Adam comes out from his hidey-hole and says well, I heard your voice in the garden, Lord, but I was afraid because I was naked, so I hid! And God asks Adam, well, who told you that you were naked? And what’s the first thing Adam does? He says to God, the creator of the universe, it was this woman you gave me! She gave me the fruit from the tree you said not to eat from and I ate it! THAT WOMAN YOU GAVE ME. That’s right, Adam shifted the blame from himself and said, well it was THAT WOMAN, instead of being a man and admitting he had done wrong.


If you go to church you have probably heard this recounting of the original sin and the fall of man. There are a couple of problems with this particular version, however.

  1. Preachers who do this add to the scripture by placing Adam right there with Eve while the serpent tempted her, always reducing him to some brainless wonder, akin to being a tree himself. Powerless or unwilling to stop the oncoming train wreck. The bible does not give any credence to this assumption, nor does it deny it – it just doesn’t say! Adam could have been completely on the other side of the garden a mile away for all we know, but we DONT know.
  2. Preachers who do this use a trick to shift the fault of Eve onto Adam by saying Adam shifted the blame onto Eve! The fact of the matter is that Adams statement is a true statement! It WAS the woman God gave him! She DID give him the fruit of the tree to eat. Adam is to blame for accepting it, but we aren’t told that he willingly took the forbidden fruit from his wife. Given woman’s tendency to deceive, how do we know he even KNEW it was from the tree he was told not to eat from! Try brining THAT up at your next married couples bible study and see how fast you are stricken from the ranks!

When you teach that, from the get go, man screwed everything up you are singing to the choir. Women lap this stuff up because it gets them off the hook for EVERYTHING. Anything they have done wrong can be traced back to their husband, which can be traced back to ADAM, “The First Man Who Didn’t Man Up”.

If your a Christian man, don’t fall for this tripe.

Author: SnapperTrx

Just a guy on the internet.

4 thoughts on “The best lies are the ones you want to hear.”

  1. Snapper, you are very insightful. I’m writing on that very topic about Adam in the garden [and many other topics in marriage]. Peter says people are willingly ignorant and your title here addresses the next step: buying lies that feed their fantasy of thinking they don’t have to be accountable, that there really is a free lunch, that they have the smarts and power to have knowledge over scripture, etc. It is a disease of the church that has handed illicit authority to women and blasphemed the Sanctity of Command. God has allowed this for a period, but that period is up and the Lord is demanding His structure return. And it is happening with men like you standing up in your family and in the church. Blessings as you hear from Him and stand firm in it. Dave

    The healing of the church starts with women returning to their God-ordained place.

    1. Firstly thanks for visiting my blog.

      Secondly your absolutely right, the church HAS handed authority and control over to its women and, at face value, it may seem like something that isn’t so bad, but when held up to the mirror of scripture you can see clearly that it is not good!

      1 Timothy 2:
      11 Let a woman learn in silence with all submission. 12 And I do not permit a woman to teach or to have authority over a man, but to be in silence. 13 For Adam was formed first, then Eve. 14 And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived, fell into transgression. 15 Nevertheless she will be saved in childbearing if they continue in faith, love, and holiness, with self-control.

      The bible is full of words that CHRISTIANS don’t want to hear, but are forced to because they claim to be Christians. In order to make the words more palatable we add little changes here and there so that the words remain the same, but the spirit of the words is gone. The scripture above is clear if you JUST READ IT:

      1. Women learn in silence.
      2. Women are not permitted to teach
      3. Women are not to have authority over a man.
      4. Adam was formed first, before Eve
      5. The woman was deceived, NOT Adam

      Modern Christians cant get behind these words because they are not religiously correct! They offend too much! Time to add some sugar! Lets add a little “God wouldn’t possibly want a woman not to learn from OTHER women!”, and then a little “Well we have to take the culture of the time into account!” and, finally, a little something to make that nasty “woman was deceived” part go away.

      Ta-Da! Now we have something that’s easy to swallow and still gives us the warm, fuzzy feeling of being “in the word of God”, without actually being there.

      The disease lies in those men who don’t want to pick up their authority and in women who are wrestling it from the hands of those men who do. And how does God feel about those who ditch out on their authority?

      Matthew 25:
      26 “But his lord answered and said to him, ‘You wicked and lazy servant, you knew that I reap where I have not sown, and gather where I have not scattered seed. 27 So you ought to have deposited my money with the bankers, and at my coming I would have received back my own with interest. 28 Therefore take the talent from him, and give it to him who has ten talents.
      29 ‘For to everyone who has, more will be given, and he will have abundance; but from him who does not have, even what he has will be taken away. 30 And cast the unprofitable servant into the outer darkness. There will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.’

    2. “Adam could have been completely on the other side of the garden a mile away for all we know, but we DONT know.”

      If you read Genesis Chapter 3:6-7, it says:
      6 When the woman saw that the fruit of the tree was good for food and pleasing to the eye, and also desirable for gaining wisdom, she took some and ate it. She also gave some to her husband, who was WITH HER, and he ate it.

      So maybe there is some truth to Adam being there at the time and not stopping her?

      “The fact of the matter is that Adams statement is a true statement! It WAS the woman God gave him! She DID give him the fruit of the tree to eat.

      Then you could argue what Eve said was a true statement too. (“The serpent deceived me and I ate.”) But God still held them both accountable.

      “Adam is to blame for accepting it, but we aren’t told that he willingly took the forbidden fruit from his wife. Given woman’s tendency to deceive, how do we know he even KNEW it was from the tree he was told not to eat from!”

      If Eve was deceived and not Adam, that means Adam knew exactly what he was doing, right? God told him personally not to eat the fruit and he did it anyways. I’m sure he recognized what tree the fruit came from.

      1. I’m not sure what translation of the bible you are using, I tend to stay away from anything that isn’t the King James (for a host of reasons) and sometimes I delve into the New King James, however, the words ‘who was’ are added words and not found in the KJV which reads:

        Genesis 3:
        “6 So when the woman saw that the tree was good for food, that it was pleasant to the eyes, and a tree desirable to make one wise, she took of its fruit and ate. She also gave to her husband with her, and he ate.”

        ‘With her’ should be translated ‘as well’. This does not indicate Adams physical presence during Eve’s interaction with the snake, but, as I said before, we don’t know and we will never 100% know while still on this earth, but the text seems to indicate that Adam was NOT there, but that Eve shared the fruit with him at some point.

        Yes, Eve’s statement was true, buy my point was that pastors tend to discount Adams statement twisting into some kind of bald-faced attempt to keep himself out of trouble, and it may have been, but the text doesn’t give us real context, if you know what I mean. Was Adam trying to save his own butt or just flat out saying what had happened? The invasion of feminism in the church has bent the statement toward the latter to indicate to a congregation that men have always ‘abused’ women, blamed them for their problems or used them as scapegoats.

        My last statement is more of an observation on women’s tendency to use lying and subterfuge to get themselves out of trouble. Its also intended to be intentionally provoking because its as absurd an idea as Adam standing by like a milksop while watching his wife converse with a talking snake, reach up into a tree they were banned from eating from, pick a piece of fruit, consume it, go through whatever transformation took place then complacently follow suit. However, the statement is not out of the realm of possibility. Remember, Eve had already eaten of the fruit and was now capable of committing such a deception!

        Anyhow, thanks for visiting my blog, I really appreciate the discussion.

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